{"id":2554,"date":"2025-09-30T23:39:20","date_gmt":"2025-09-30T21:39:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.zmiany.org\/?p=2554"},"modified":"2026-01-22T23:34:12","modified_gmt":"2026-01-22T22:34:12","slug":"dlaczego-laboratorium-zmiany-nie-zatrzymuje-sie-w-warszawie-wywiad-z-marcelem-swierkockim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.zmiany.org\/en\/interview-why-doesnt-laboratorium-zmiany-stop-in-warsaw\/","title":{"rendered":"Why doesn\u2019t Laboratorium Zmiany stop in Warsaw? An interview with Marcel \u015awierkocki"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n
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Marcel \u015awierkocki, an expert from Pracownia Zmiany, talks about why Laboratorium Zmiany<\/em> works not only in Warsaw. What is it like to work with cities that are just starting their path toward a better, greener future? And why are small successes sometimes more important than big visions?<\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 How do you understand the mission of Laboratorium Zmiany<\/em>, and why don\u2019t you focus only on Warsaw?<\/b>
For me, it is mainly about change \u2013 changing cities to be greener, closer to people, more friendly and sustainable. Going beyond Warsaw is very important. The capital should set trends and lead by example, and we, as activists from Warsaw, have experience we can share. It\u2019s great to pass this knowledge to smaller cities and local activists who are just starting their work. These cities often need real, deep change.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 What do cities usually ask you for when they contact you?<\/strong>
Most often, they look for help with their biggest problems: protecting green areas, protecting heritage buildings, and changing public spaces. Residents and local activists want streets and squares to be more friendly and easier to use.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 How do you plan your workshops then?<\/strong>
Before we travel, we meet with local activists so the program fits their needs. This local focus is key. Sometimes the goal is to strengthen institutions and give people more motivation. Other times, it\u2019s about finding solutions to very specific problems.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 What is the biggest value of these meetings for you?<\/strong>
For me, the biggest value is inspiration \u2013 showing that change is possible. Integration between different groups is just as important. It often leads to more cooperation and future projects. This is even more important than pure expert knowledge.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 Is your approach more about education or working together?<\/strong>
We try to work on real problems that residents and activists bring to us. We look for solutions together, using our experience but also local knowledge. It\u2019s important to respect the character of each place.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 What difficulties do you face most often during the workshops?<\/strong>
The biggest challenge is that the vision people have for their city \u2013 which often matches ours \u2013 does not easily turn into action. Every change has to be fought for, which can be discouraging. That\u2019s why it\u2019s important to notice small successes, things we can really influence and that show results.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 Where do you see the biggest potential of Laboratorium Zmiany<\/em>?<\/strong>
In showing smaller cities that urban policy can look different \u2013 more open and more transparent. This makes people feel they have real influence, and cities become more friendly because they respond to real needs.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 What motivates you personally to take part in these trips?<\/strong>
Meeting people who really want to act. Getting to know local communities and planning solutions together.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n

\u2013 What are your next plans?<\/strong>
In the autumn, we are planning another trip \u2013 this time to \u0141\u00f3d\u017a.<\/p>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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